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		<title>By: Mechadon</title>
		<link>http://mekworx.phenomer.net/2009/07/10/computertron-update/comment-page-1/#comment-329</link>
		<dc:creator>Mechadon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 04:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, thanks alot for those tips Super Jamie!   I had exhausted all that I could do up to opening up the case and taking a peak inside (I reinstalled windows multiple times and I even tried Windows Vista).  I really wanted to avoid opening it up but...well that didn&#039;t quite work out :P  I sorta know my way around the components and what to do and what not to do, but I just have stupid fingers and I tend to break things easily.  Thankfully though, from what I can tell, I didn&#039;t really hurt anything (aside from breaking the edges of a really small clip...I can&#039;t see how people can grip those things).

Incidentally, I was just about to make a new post on my whole computer situation.  It turns out that the problem, from what Carn described to me, was Windows-based (possibly with Windows Update).  He started getting the BSOD in XP and errors in Vista, which was the exact same problem that lead me to believe I was having some sort of hardware failure.  So at this moment in time, the problem is resolved and I can resume working on Vega!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, thanks alot for those tips Super Jamie!   I had exhausted all that I could do up to opening up the case and taking a peak inside (I reinstalled windows multiple times and I even tried Windows Vista).  I really wanted to avoid opening it up but&#8230;well that didn&#8217;t quite work out <img src='http://mekworx.phenomer.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/emot-p.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' />   I sorta know my way around the components and what to do and what not to do, but I just have stupid fingers and I tend to break things easily.  Thankfully though, from what I can tell, I didn&#8217;t really hurt anything (aside from breaking the edges of a really small clip&#8230;I can&#8217;t see how people can grip those things).</p>
<p>Incidentally, I was just about to make a new post on my whole computer situation.  It turns out that the problem, from what Carn described to me, was Windows-based (possibly with Windows Update).  He started getting the BSOD in XP and errors in Vista, which was the exact same problem that lead me to believe I was having some sort of hardware failure.  So at this moment in time, the problem is resolved and I can resume working on Vega!</p>
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		<title>By: Super Jamie</title>
		<link>http://mekworx.phenomer.net/2009/07/10/computertron-update/comment-page-1/#comment-328</link>
		<dc:creator>Super Jamie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 02:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just so you know, a software memory test isn&#039;t really conclusive. It can identify alot of faults, but not all of them. Swapping the sticks is a good idea, and run as many different tests as possible. The Ubuntu LiveCD comes with memtest86, and if you&#039;re into pirating stuff, Microscope 2000 is a great commercial diagnostic suite if you can figure out the tests.

Sometimes a faulty stick of RAM can get past the best of software diags, but swap the stick out for a new one and your problems magically vanish. You could try just running one one stick for a few days, see if the problem goes away. Try the same with the other stick.

When you&#039;re changing your sticks, don&#039;t touch the chips or any contacts, grip it by the edges of the PCB. Keep a hand on the housing of the laptop (or any large metal chassis areas) to minimise the chance of static discharge.

If things are dusty in there, brush with a small paintbrush. Put tape over the metal part of the brush bristles if it has one. It also might be worth investing in some isopropyl alcohol (10 bucks at a chemist/pharmacy) to clean the contacts if stuff is very dirty. Some LCD iso wipes would be better than nothing, just make sure whatever you use is alcohol-based, not water-based.

It could also be a hard drive error (pagefile or something hitting a dodgy sector as you move large apps around in memory) or even just a borked Windows install. Wiping your hard drive and reinstalling everything might sound painful, but it&#039;s an option. Make sure you have the latest BIOS from your manufacturer too.

This is all just general PC fixing stuff. I did it as a job for years, during and after highschool.

Good luck! I&#039;ll turn on email notification for replies here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just so you know, a software memory test isn&#8217;t really conclusive. It can identify alot of faults, but not all of them. Swapping the sticks is a good idea, and run as many different tests as possible. The Ubuntu LiveCD comes with memtest86, and if you&#8217;re into pirating stuff, Microscope 2000 is a great commercial diagnostic suite if you can figure out the tests.</p>
<p>Sometimes a faulty stick of RAM can get past the best of software diags, but swap the stick out for a new one and your problems magically vanish. You could try just running one one stick for a few days, see if the problem goes away. Try the same with the other stick.</p>
<p>When you&#8217;re changing your sticks, don&#8217;t touch the chips or any contacts, grip it by the edges of the PCB. Keep a hand on the housing of the laptop (or any large metal chassis areas) to minimise the chance of static discharge.</p>
<p>If things are dusty in there, brush with a small paintbrush. Put tape over the metal part of the brush bristles if it has one. It also might be worth investing in some isopropyl alcohol (10 bucks at a chemist/pharmacy) to clean the contacts if stuff is very dirty. Some LCD iso wipes would be better than nothing, just make sure whatever you use is alcohol-based, not water-based.</p>
<p>It could also be a hard drive error (pagefile or something hitting a dodgy sector as you move large apps around in memory) or even just a borked Windows install. Wiping your hard drive and reinstalling everything might sound painful, but it&#8217;s an option. Make sure you have the latest BIOS from your manufacturer too.</p>
<p>This is all just general PC fixing stuff. I did it as a job for years, during and after highschool.</p>
<p>Good luck! I&#8217;ll turn on email notification for replies here.</p>
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		<title>By: Mechadon</title>
		<link>http://mekworx.phenomer.net/2009/07/10/computertron-update/comment-page-1/#comment-324</link>
		<dc:creator>Mechadon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 04:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t worry, I&#039;m still alive.  It&#039;s just that I&#039;ve been reduced to using a computer that&#039;s semi-retarded for the time being.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t worry, I&#8217;m still alive.  It&#8217;s just that I&#8217;ve been reduced to using a computer that&#8217;s semi-retarded for the time being.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy91</title>
		<link>http://mekworx.phenomer.net/2009/07/10/computertron-update/comment-page-1/#comment-323</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimmy91</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 00:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s up Mech? Haven&#039;t seen you on any of the forums in weeks. Hope everything&#039;s okay down on your end. :?:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s up Mech? Haven&#8217;t seen you on any of the forums in weeks. Hope everything&#8217;s okay down on your end. <img src='http://mekworx.phenomer.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/emot-questr.gif' alt=':?:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mechadon</title>
		<link>http://mekworx.phenomer.net/2009/07/10/computertron-update/comment-page-1/#comment-320</link>
		<dc:creator>Mechadon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 06:23:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have an idea.

I think throwing my laptop out of a moving vehicle might fix it.  I&#039;m gonna go do that now.

 &gt;:(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have an idea.</p>
<p>I think throwing my laptop out of a moving vehicle might fix it.  I&#8217;m gonna go do that now.</p>
<p> <img src='http://mekworx.phenomer.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/emot-mad.gif' alt='&gt;:(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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